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Oceane Cassan's avatar

Hi, thanks for all your writings. Isn't this line of thought inevitably leading to a plea for libertarianism, even anarcho-capitalism? More generally I was curious as to whether you see such political systems as a way to alleviate the dangers of AI, since in these systems AI could not be used by authoritarian governments anymore, only by private parties with limited power and access to force.

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Dakara's avatar

Thank you! This particular post was essentially a cautionary warning about faith in any such systems as human nature prevails in the end. Ironically, ideas like libertarianism would seem to be an appropriate response and it isn't necessarily that the response is wrong.

It is that we seem to have a perpetual blind spot as to how it all falls apart. For example, upon the initiation of the US Government under the Constitution, the government was more libertarian in nature than any time in history.

How did we get to where we are today? You can have a libertarian government, but power-seeking humans will always exist. They will find a way to exploit the system and the worst thing a general population can do is trust the system. Meaning, there will be many who will be satisfied a libertarian government exists and will go about their daily business unaware that it still acquires power while not being watched.

AI is a powerful tool for authoritarians no matter which role they may play. Whether it be by government or other institutional powers. Limiting power is in our best interest, but it must be widely culturally adopted. Meaning that the general population must perceive and understand the issue. A system of laws to limit power in any form is worth no more than the people that understand them and are willing to defend them. As any government entity will not restrict itself, but will certainly attempt to convince you that it does.

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Steve Martin's avatar

First line, second paragraph ... https://chomsky.info/20100930/

The animal nature of humanity, the limits of language and logic, and the above description of "human intelligence" triangulate to a probability that we will be neither the first nor last self-proclaimed "apex species" to go the way of the dinosaurs.

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Dakara's avatar

Yes, and similarly we know entire civilizations have disappeared in history. Most think it can't happen again. And even for those who do, there is something important often missed.

The more global our world becomes in which everyone and every state begins to follow the same behaviors of everyone else, the next civilization disappearance also becomes a global risk.

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Steve Martin's avatar

Agreed again. "The Collapse of Complex Societies" (J. Tainter) and "Political Ponerology ..." (A. Lobaczewski) seem to be narrowing in on the same conclusion — the first through the limits of sustainable complexity, and the latter through perpetually emergent pathologies. I guess the best that authentic individuals can do is tend the garden ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgGvd1UPZ88

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